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R5 Lark Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:52 am Post subject: |
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That
is ironic. I kept loosing the little C clips and it became easier to
"unspin" the wire for adjustments. That is the longest wastegate arm I
have ever seen on a gate.
Dan, one unit was shipped out this evening. The other will go out around Wednesday. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:25 am Post subject: Motor Mounts |
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Today
I picked up the motor mount. Communication error. Other mount and trans
mount will be here tomorrow. The mount I am using is an Energy
Suspension part number 2.1102G. It is listed as a Jeep and Universal
mount. It is a polyurethane mount with interlocking metal plates to
prevent the dredded mount separation if it fails. I chose this mount
because I wanted to stay with a drop down mount. I have always liked
the engine mount plate to set on top of the mount instead of working at
an angle. That way I don't have to worry about motor mount sag as the
mount gets a work out. Here's a picture of the mount.
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The poly construction is something I prefer in certain instances.
Motor mounts is one of them. I don't like solid steel mounts. Although
strong I have seen blocks damaged by them. I don't like rubber mounts
like the OEM as they have a limited life span and are easily damaged by
oil and fuel. So tomorrow I plan to do a rough mock up of the frame
plates and these mounts so that I can finalize the engine plates in the
near future. Look for pictures tomorrow night.
Need to find time to go and get the two motors from Lompoc Tom and
then I plan to take them to my work shop in Santa Maria to start
checking them out. Figured I could use one of the seatrain containers
to do the work out of the elements. Once I figure out if one of the
engines will work I can transport it to Morro Bay for install in the
Avanti. If that doesn't work out then Alan has the block you saw
pictured and who knows what else is out there. Look for pictures next
week of the first turbo mock up.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:41 am Post subject: Karl |
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Karl,
I think Tom Covington is looking to make aobut 350HP. That is with the
259 and twin turbos set at about 10-12 psi boost. I'm all about saving
time and money. What do you have in mind. If you want to share directly
you can e mail me here.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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PlainBrownR2 R1 Member
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 86 Location: aurora, illinois
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Yeah
Tom, what you're looking at there is a stock TD05 off of a second gen
Eclipse. From what I was told the power from the one side of the V8
will be spot on at midrange. But anyway, the design of the exhaust side
of the wastegate of the turbo and the mounting point of the vacuum
module? on the compressor, provides for a very long wastegate arm. From
looking at the photo, yeah they designed is so mechanics of the
wastegate of the turbo are literally at opposite ends of the
compressor. Well, as long as it works like it should.... |
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Karl Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 662 Location: modesto,ca.
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: |
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My thought is to let you use the motor out of the Twin.
Its ready now.
No need to buy any thing. Its got Crower rods, J&E pistons,Total
Rings, Fresh bearings. heads are new. but not sure if you want to run
the R4 intake set up vs a single four.
its here if you need it.Karl _________________
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:12 am Post subject: WOW |
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Karl,
That is some offer. I'm not sure how to respond. But let me ask you
this. Is the engine turbo friendly, low compression or high? Not
wanting to slight Tom C. He has been working hard for a month now to
help me get something together for El Mirage. And he is willing to fly
out to tune it ect. Could we use the dual quads and low boost? Or Tom's
single four and manifold set up for boost. Just testing the waters
here. What about oiling system? So help me out here. Can this work
together and get things done. This would save a lot of time and money
and take the guess work out of the equation. So Tom please weigh in.
And Karl share your thoughts too.
In Awe Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had
a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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R5 Lark Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Congradulations Don!!!
No slight here on my end. This solves the time constraint, logistics,
and engine preparation problem. I am happy for you and my hat is off to
Karl for stepping up to the plate and hitting a home run for the
project. It don't get no better than this. Go for it! |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: Twin |
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Tom,
Thank you. I'm glad you are happy for me but I can't help but feel
disappointed for you. These last few weeks you have been bust'n your
tail to find something that would make things work. Thank you for
caring and for the work you did.
Last night after I posted my reply I decided to see if I could find out
what Karl was offering me. I have read so many posts and have been so
locked into the project I didn't put two and two together. So I went
looking for posts by Karl. What I found late last night (actually early
this morning) was a shocker. I had no idea that Karl and the building
of the twin were the same. So I didn't sleep real well and I'm up early
feeling a lot like I did the morning after I read the post from Chuck
offering me the Burke Avanti. Can you imagine the Burke Avanti and the
Twin combined. A Studebaker lovers dream come true and the photo
opportunity of a lifetime.
I will contact Karl and work out the details and keep everyone up to
date as this new developement unfolds. As Tom said Karl just hit a home
run. No, a Grand Slam. I look forward to working with Karl from now
till El Mirage.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Karl Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 662 Location: modesto,ca.
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just trying to do my part. Your work with Tom C. is still very much needed for the turbo in stall and tune Tom may have a cam that will work better with turbos. Know they need different profiles.
I talked to my engine shop friend. (also a LSR both El mirage and Bonv)
Said the Oil system would be ok.Compression on my old motor was 9:1
will be about 8.7-8.8 now because of additional material removed from
combustion chamber. running a water & ice intercooler would just
make it work better.(somehthing Iv'e been looking into) _________________
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: Update |
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Hey Everyone,
If you have been following the last couple of posts you know that
things have taken a dramatic turn for the better. Karl, owner of the
"Twin" Avanti has offered me the use of the Twins engine for El Mirage.
Now picture the engine bay filled with a twin Paxton Studebaker engine.
This generous offer has taken a tremendous burden off of me and my
team. We can now concentrate on getting the car ready and safe. And of
course raising the money to pay for the safety equipment and other
improvements needed. The rotisserie is ready for adaption to the body
so that the frame can be repaired, cleaned and sealed. The car will be
making a trip next door for motor mount set up. Then I'll call a work
day and see how many of the people who said they wanted to help show
up. Getting the underbody work done will be a big step in making the
car race ready. Man this is awesome.
My wife and I had a little time to work on the car today. Eddie had
an engagement and closed shop early. Kathy showed how easy it is to
repair fiberglass with Kent products. She made the repairs to the hood
scoop. Sanded, cleaned and repaired. Next she will apply the mat
material to the underside and glaze the low spots and sand the
underside of the hood. Then it will go to Otis Auto Body for a coat of
white paint. That way it will be ready for the signatures of the people
who give a gift to support the project. That way their signature will
fly down the salt with me. Here's the pics of Kathy at work.
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Man that is some work. Only thing better is when she has a power
tool in her hands. She is one woman who doesn't mind getting dirty and
loves working on project cars with me. She is already busy designing
the new seat cover and pad for the car. I worked on the motor mounts.
Here are some pics.
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How do you like the cool Studebaker "S" cut into the gusset. That
was a gift from my buddy Pat King of High Gear Ranch in Paso Robles. I
didn't expect that and it is a cool touch. I like the first shot of the
frame plate with the car in the background. I have to get the car on
level ground before I can go any further with the mounts but they are
going to look sharp and work like a charm. I had Kathy take a picture
of the interior with the sheet metal removed from the right side and
back right panel. Great and easy access to the distrbutor and anything
else at the back of the engine. Great design. Thank you Bill Burke.
Here's a pic of Otis's sign.
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More to come.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Karl Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Good looken stuff.. _________________
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Sonny Site Admin
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 1454 Location: About 20 miles south of Columbia, SC
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:06 am Post subject: |
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WOW!
What a turn of events! Karl, you are "Da MAN"! Damn, what a project!!!
You guys keep me lookin' in here 10 times a day to keep up with the
action. AWESOME! _________________ Sonny |
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s2dbaker R2 Member
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:49 am Post subject: Thank you |
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S2DBaker,
Thanks for the tip. I will see about getting copies for events. Maybe I
can pick them up at the Studebaker Drivers Meet at the Petersen Museum
next month. We will have the Twin engine sitting in the bay at the
show. Going to try and include a lunch Saturday with Andy Granatelli
and my dad. I want to get Andy to sign the dog house. Along with Bill
Burke, Steve Burke and Mike Cooke. So look for more soon.
Today I picked up the other engine mount and the trans mount. It is
the same one that Karl is using on the twin. Here are some pictures.
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Just a word to the wise or consider it a reminder. Never use the
lock washers provided in the kit. In fact I recommend you "Never" use a
split type lock washer. It is impossible to get a true torque setting
with them. Use Lock-Tite or if it is something that really gets a lot
of vibration then use the new Shure Lock self locking washers. The
plate has to be used since it sets the preload on the mount for long
life and minimal vibration transfer. The frame plates serve as my pre
load washers on the motor mounts. To get more information on the
trickest lock washers ever invented go to:
Kent-Automotive.com
Click on Products. Click on Browse our catalog. Type in part number
58094 which is a 3/8" version of the washer. For a little more info
click on the part number below the picture. That's it for tonights
installment.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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sbca96 R5 Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 1674 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:36 am Post subject: |
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I have a fiberglass hood that the inner spider separated from the out skin
in an accident. I need to bond the two back together, and fix some slight
damage to the front pass corner. Any product recommendations?
Tom |
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mbstude R2 Member
Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 155 Location: South Georgia, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Dan you may have already seen these, but here's a few videos of the Twin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTW9SxM2ElQ\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjmME2QSVt8&feature=related
I drooled over Karl's engine bay at the South Bend meet in '07. I
couldn't be more excited about how things are working out for you. I
check in here a couple times a day just to see what's new. I just wish
I had some Avanti parts I could donate. _________________ Matthew Burnette
Your Friendly Stude Trim Bender
Starlight Stainless
912-253-3037
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: Chem Weld 15 |
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Tom,
I would recommend the Chem Weld 15 we are using on the Burke car. We
are doing the exact same reapir on the hood for the car. I can set you
up with one of my Santa Barbara customers so that you can have them
order it for you. I will contact you by e mail with all the info.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: Thank You |
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Matthew,
I had seen those videos but did not know they were Karl's car. WOW. I
wish I had some stainless that needed work so I could send it to you.
But the Avanti only has stainless around the windows and it's straight
and clean. But I appreciate your support and enthusiasm. Here's a shot
of the engine Karl sent to me.
So keep looking and more tonight. I have some time to work on it today.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Karl Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 662 Location: modesto,ca.
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Was able to fine a suppier for some mandrel bent 2.75 alum.tubing Will remove motor tomorrow. put on engine stand . _________________
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:23 am Post subject: Good News |
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Karl,
That's good news. I sure wish I was going to be there tomorrow to help
pull the engine. Man I can't wait till I get my truck running. Having
to rely on others is no fun. They all have lives too. Let me know how
things go.
Well I worked on the car today for a little while. I got the trans mount installed.
Found out that the frame work above the engine is really stout.
Much stronger than I thought it would be. So I rigged a better way to
hold the engine in place. I didn't want to move the car with just the
wood blocks holding it.
Next I took a piece of heat flexible heat tube and checked the
routing of the headers. In so doing I figured out what the purpose of
the two studs on the frame. They are the attaching points for the
support strap for the zoomies. And to think at one time I contemplated
cutting them off. Now I think three times before doing anything.
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Next I replaced both rear axle seals. The left one had been
leaking. Got the right seals this time. Took a picture for reference.
Then I moved inside to measure the seating area. Under the new
rules the car has to have head restraints in or on the seat with a
maximum of two inches of movement. I'm trying to figure out if I can
install a modern seat without making irreversible changes. Will hit the
books tonight to see if that can happen.
Then for the first time in a month the car was back on the ground.
Man it looks menacing. It has attracted a lot of attention. And it's in
the back of the shop. Wait until tomorrow when it's inside.
Then I took some reference measurements to prepare for tomorows
move inside to level ground. The headers will have enough clearance
since there is less than an inch in total suspension travel in front.
Again I used the flex pipe to see how the zoomies will exit using the
two studs as my guide.
It was then that I noticed that the oil pan was really low. How
low. Try two inches from the ground. Not to worry as the engine is
currently set at below level to the frame. Tomorrow I will recheck
after the engine is set for manifold level.
So all in all a good day. Wish I was going to Modesto tomorrow but
plan to make it there early next week. Can't wait to see the Twin up
close. Looking forward to meeting Karl in person. Sure like his work.
And his generosity ain't bad either LOL. So that's it for now. Hope I
didn't bore you with too much detail. Sorry about the picture quality
on the outdoor shots. I haven't learned how to change the setting for
foggy days. That's why I take the wife with me most days. She has the
good camera and she even knows how to use it.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:01 am Post subject: Go Racing Studebakers |
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I
would like to post the following picture as my way of honoring all of
the great people who make this web site one of the best ever. So enjoy
and I will post more pictures later tonight.
Dan
_________________ Grew
up Studebaker. Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced
successfully in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going
to be flying down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Karl Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Nice,
Didnt get motor out. Got side tracked by honey do's Going to visit my mom tomorrow. Have it out Sun. Alum tubing be here Tue. _________________
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:16 am Post subject: Great |
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Enjoy
the visit. I will try come up on Wed or Thurs. Still didn't get my
truck trans. Rats! Maybe tomorrow. Let me know how things are going.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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64Avanti Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 407 Location: San Jose California
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Karl,
What is the max RPM you want your engine to see? _________________ David Livesay |
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sbca96 R5 Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Karl,
Are you loaning the entire driveline, engine and trans? Did you get your
Giblin adapter in and your TKO-600? Just curious if you solved Dans trans
problem also. I wouldnt use a TR-3650 with the Twin.
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Sonny Site Admin
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 1454 Location: About 20 miles south of Columbia, SC
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:29 am Post subject: Re: Go Racing Studebakers |
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SilverHawkDan wrote: | I
would like to post the following picture as my way of honoring all of
the great people who make this web site one of the best ever. So enjoy
and I will post more pictures later tonight.
Dan
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WOW!!! WHAT an honor! For myself, I can't thank you enough for such
an unselfish act, Dan. It sure wasn't necessary, but I cannot tell you
how much I appreciate it. My first humble thanks is for/from the forums
"hardware"operator. As a humble member of this community, thanks for
recognizing what an outstanding bunch of people we have. It just does
NOT get ANY better!!!
SEMPER FI! _________________ Sonny |
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mbstude R2 Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:18 am Post subject: |
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I'm loving this.
I agree. This is THE best Stude forum around.
Dan, I sent you a PM. _________________ Matthew Burnette
Your Friendly Stude Trim Bender
Starlight Stainless
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:15 am Post subject: The lettering almost finished |
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Well
today was a good day but not without a set back. My pastor friend Kevin
came by today and did most of the lettering on the car. He hand painted
the whole thing and now the car really looks like a race car. As if it
didn't before. I tried to make the lettering help tell the story when I
designed it. So now people looking at the car will get a sense of what
is happening or in the very least be curious and ask questions about
the project.
Here are some pictures of the lettering that has been applied.
Kevin just has to add the lettering for Eddie's Custom Cars on the front fenders.
Now for the other news. I spoke to the guy from the company (The Car
Twirler) that makes the rotisserie about putting the Avanti on it. He
said that it will fit and be safely within the weight capacity. He told
me that all fiberglass vehicles have to be put on with the frame or you
have to buy the aluminum replacement frame for $1300. Otherwise the
body will flex and stress cracks will show up everywhere. So now it's
time to build the adapters to mate the car to the rig.
That's when I found a problem. When you grap hold of the bumper
brackets in front and lift up they flex real bad. So I raised the car
and flexed the brackets and watched what was moving. The frame flexs at
the spring tower. It seems when the straight axle was installed they
didn't care about the flex as they must have figured that the load was
always downward. But since we need the frame to go up or down I am
going to have to install so gussets to make the frame solid enough to
support the body weight on the rotisserie. I also found a crack in the
cross member that I am sure I would have found when we do the frame
inspection and repairs. So more work but it will so be worth it when
the car gets flipped on it's side to do the frame work and prep the
underbody. So look for a frame repair and then rotisserie mount soon.
The guy at the Car Twirler wants photos of the Avanti on the rotisserie
and would like (if they're good) to use them for marketing purposes. I
wonder if I can get some sponsorship money out of this? So lots more to
come.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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64Avanti Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Dan,
It is starting to look good! I am envious of the time you have to spend on the car! _________________ David Livesay |
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