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    1902 Electric Wagon (lotsa pix)

    Hey guys here are the pix of that wagon. Has anybody bought it yet? I offered $750.00 last week, and he said no he was getting too many calls.

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    Wonder if NAPA has those brake shoes....



    From the back cover of the August, 2001 Turning Wheels.

    Fred Fox writes:

    Our back cover features an illustration of a 1905 Model No. 9251 2,500 lb. capacity Studebaker Express Wagon. Like other larger Studebaker Electric Trucks, this model was fitted with two electric motors, in this case 80 volt, 20 amp units. Note the steering wheel. Most larger Studebaker Electric trucks used steering wheels, while the Studebaker Electric automobiles came with tiller steering. Larger trucks used either solid rubber or iron tires, while the cars came with pneumatic tires. The solid rubber tires on this Express Wagon are 36"x3-1/2".

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    Nice Matthew, If you find anymore of those save them, If I would end up with it those will come in handy for reference. There are a lot of similarities in the running gear. the one I listed came with a tiller so the guy said. Interesting the motors hung off towards the back.




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    I'd hate to have to carry two spares, since the rear is seven lug and the front is only six..

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    Would this be the only one in existence? I've never heard of another one in a museum or ever written about in Turning Wheels.


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    I so wish I had the cash to get this, it would be the ultimate in a stude collection. What would have topped it off for me is I know how to work with wood better than metal,lol.

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    Looks like we found a match, Studemaker from STT found this old photo. There was some speculation on STT weather or not this was an actual electric,or just a hodgepodge of old parts. Possobly the makings the "first studebaker truck" this item should be saved. I wonder if a sale has been brokered yet. I will contact the owner to see who ended up with it. hopefully we will see progress on this site from the new owner.

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    57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction (in Picture)

    58' 3E6D Stock Sale Pending

    61' 6E7 122 Factory Auto



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    I like the green paint on this. Wait a minute that's MOSS!

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    That is just too cool and I really hope someone can save it.

    I wouldn't have a clue how to start on something like that. What do you do, take it apart, restore the metal parts and use the wood for patterns? I can't imagine much of that wood is usable.

    Once it's done what a COOL car... er wagon to use in a parade!

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    this one

    looking for pictures or info that is scarce.
    Last edited by (S); 12-31-2010 at 06:36 AM.

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    Does that mean you purchased this electric wagon (S)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by (S) View Post
    looking for pictures of this one. Parts were missing, so any help would be a big help. This is a Model 25
    Good work, Mike! You might end up having the first self-propelled Studebaker in existence!! Did you state the serial number plate is still intact? My gut feeling is that not many years after, it ended up being hauled around by horses, and the battery carrier and other electrical components were removed. If that came from a farm where it spent all its life, I'd be tempted to asked the seller if you might poke around in the barn(s), and see if any of the missing parts are still stashed in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (S) View Post
    The tags were removed years ago, and have been found. The only hint they even made one of these is in the form of these tags and in text from 'car ads' where it says to ask for more details about electric wagons.

    The wagon like this is so rare, produced a short time and sold very few.

    The SNM has no info, as far as we know and even some of the clubs 'wagon experts' have never seen one, so finding details are hard to come by.

    I searched through many, many hours of text just to find 2 clues about the wagon.

    Clue #1: there are pictures in Stude catalog # 266 and maybe in #224 but these are rare old books and we have not found one yet.

    Clue #2: in all the searching, not one mention anywhere about the model #25

    This is one of the most rare, undocumented Studebakers I have ever come across.
    We wait for the new year, I do have some leads to follow about one of the books. (#224)
    It might be worth a trip to the Seattle Public Library. They might have the Post-Intellingencer (if that was the daily paper back then) back that far on microfilm. True, your time is involved, but I'm assuming it was sold in the Pacific Northwest, and there had to be a selling dealer somwhere there.

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    Craig, I'm already on it, but the wagon info was not in the usual ads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (S) View Post
    Craig, I'm already on it, but the wagon info was not in the usual ads.
    Mike, I was thinking the selling dealer himself may have placed an ad for it as opposed to using the nationwide factory-issue ads like you are showing. Local ads usually profile on the vehicles that they have in stock, and this particular one could have been advertised as one of their units in stock.

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    the search narrows

    I had very minimal luck finding anything on this wagon,
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddymander View Post
    I'd hate to have to carry two spares, since the rear is seven lug and the front is only six..
    You don't really need a spare when the tires are solid rubber!!

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    That'd be a way cool project. I kind of miss my old 1880s Owensboro wagon

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    Is there any indications of whether it had tiller steering, or a steering wheel? The only photo I can find of a similar vehicle is thes Delivery Van from The Studebaker Century by Hall/Langworth, which I believe is a year or two newer than this one.



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    It has tiller steering, I think it was used only a few years on electrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (S) View Post
    It has tiller steering, I think it was used only a few years on electrics. It is a small version, Lit. that I have seen lists it first, meaning 500-1000 pound? capacity. The model 25 must have been a slow mover in sales despite what the above says. Or where they just 'pushing' to sell the big ones in the ads?.

    The body tag reads model 25 2 and has a sideways "I" between the 25 and the 2
    Seems as though you ignored the two emails I sent you first on March 20, 2010 and resent on 12-29-10. Never received a response to either. Included in those emails were the two images below. The museum DOES have catalogs that show this vehicle! I have accessed them in the past and these two images are from those catalogs. Not sure what more can be done. I pointed you in the direction. The text of my original message as follows:

    Re your Electric did you read Fred Fox's article in the Turning Wheels of October 2001?
    Most Electric commercial vehicles had a four digit model designations. It was only for a
    very brief time that they used the two digits. I am attaching two images showing
    what I believe they referred to as a utility chassis. Basically a short wheelbase Electric
    utility vehicle. I copied these for Fred when he was doing his article. They originate from the
    Studebaker National Museum archives and I have nothing more from these particular
    catalogs other than what you see in the attachments. Maybe you would want Andy Beckman
    at the museum to hunt them down a copy other pertinent pages from the same publications.
    I will bet yours is the only Studebaker Electric commercial extant and certainly worth a restoration.




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    Amazing!! I figured it had a top at one time.
    Last edited by (S); 12-31-2010 at 06:44 AM.

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