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sbca96 R5 Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Is it true they only have rear brakes on Bonneville cars? Looks like a nice
gathering, wish I could have joined you. I was hoping to make it up there
with my dad, he is feeling better, but not 100%. I unloaded some crap
out of the Avanti, but its probably too short of notice to cruise up there in
the afternoon tomorrow (Sunday) huh? He leaves Weds, we tried to get
his flight changed, but the website says they will charge him a whole one
way ticket to move the return trip back two weeks. Lame.
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64Avanti Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 407 Location: San Jose California
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Some people only have rear brakes and some have 4 wheel brakes. _________________ David Livesay |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:57 am Post subject: Brakes |
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Tom,
Sorry to hear about your dad not being able to stay longer. Maybe he
can get to Bonneville to see it run. If you can make it up here in the
evening I can get the key to the shop. We can see the car in the
evening if that works for you. Just give me a call.
The Burke Avanti only has rear brakes. Drum brakes to boot. I
talked to Steve Burke, he drove the car over 250 and he says the brakes
were no problem even at El Mirage with the shorter course and less shut
down area. So I guess if it's good enough for 250, it's good enough for
200.
David,
I though about adding front brakes and discs out back until I
talked to Steve Burke. I guess the chute does a great job at those
speeds. Did you convert your car to straight axle like Dave Bloomberg
or do you still have the front disc brakes? I talked to a guy yesterday
and he says they modify the calipers to retract the pads after
application to prevent pad to rotor contact at speed. Less drag.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Dave Bloomberg Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 366 Location: Canyon Country, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Pesonally
I agree with Steve Burke, there's really no need for front brakes, I
know a lot of racers at Bonneville who have disconnected the front
brakes for safety reasons. On most cars if not modified,
the front brakes do more work in stopping the car than the rear brakes,
thus spinning you out of control when using them on the salt. I race
with only the Ford 9" drum brakes and no front brakes, I use the 14ft
dia chute to stop the car and then when down to 50 mph use the rear
brakes. Mostly I only use the brakes when in the pits or when towed to
the race course. So I think you can save some money and time by not
installing front brakes and keeping the Ford 9" drum brakes, instead of
disc brakes will save money too. Just my suggetion, I know others may
feel different on this subject.
Take care, Dave _________________ Original owner of 1963
Avanti, race my Avanti at Bonneville, Muroc Dry lake & El Mirage,
presently hold world records for D/CPS at Bonneville, Muroc & El
Mirage race courses.
In 2006 became member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club. |
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64Avanti Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 407 Location: San Jose California
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:05 am Post subject: |
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I still have the original suspension and brakes.
Of course the parachute is the way to stop. On my car or Dave
Bloombergs car the rear has a significant amount of rear lift. This
needs to be countered by either a wing or weight. In production class
you can't use a wing unless the car came with one. At high speed,
arround 200 mph, you need a significant amount of weight perhaps 400 to
600 lbs. so that you don't lose traction and spin. If you only have
front brakes and apply them at 200 mph you will transfer weight to the
front and unload the rear which could result in a spin if you get
sideways at all. If you only have rear brakes you will still transfer
some weight to the front but you also risk looking up the rears which
is likely to result in a spin. If you have 4 wheel brakes you can still
spin because of the above factors. If you run a wing and have weight in
the car then the story could be different.
Bottom line is use the chute. If the chute fails then don't touch
the brakes until you get below about 160 mph which will occur very
quickly. _________________ David Livesay |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 258
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:31 am Post subject: Funny Video |
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So
my wife sees me come home and then carry something big and red up the
stairs. Then she hears the water come on and shut off. Come on and shut
off. Finally after six or eight times, curiosity got the best of her
and she came upstairs, walks into the bathroom and starts laughing.
Then she asks me what I'm doing. I tell her and she says "wait a
minute". She comes back with the camera and tells me to proceed and
tell her again what it is I'm doing. So she shoots a video of me
testing the water tank from the trunk of the Burke Avanti. I was
filling it with water to measure the volume to record the total weight
that is added by putting the tank in the trunk. So try not to laugh too
hard while you watch the video. As if you've never done something car
related in the house before.
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Silver Hawk Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker.
Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully
in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying
down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Studebaker Jake Stock V/8 Member
Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Posts: 34 Location: Seattle-ish, Washington
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:03 am Post subject: Re: Funny Video |
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SilverHawkDan wrote: | As if you've never done something car related in the house before.
Silver Hawk Dan |
I hear you. Cookie trays and muffin tins dont take too well to carb
cleaner and carburetor gunk. Oh well, at least the carb is rebuilt. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 258
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:23 am Post subject: Your not even close |
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Jake,
your not even close to being bad. My Dad's friend John Stratton once
had his wife come home late from work and found him in bed. With a
woman? That would have been better in her eyes. No he had the carb off
of his Stude all apart and laying on newspaper on the bed spread as he
was rebuilding it in bed. Needless to say that marriage went downhill
from there.
Well another good day working on the Avanti. Got the front
suspension lubed with the grease gun as best I could. Removed the rear
brakes and brake lines so that I can get new parts and make the brakes
work by next week. Checked the axles and found good news. They are 28
splines which means that there are a ton of parts available and at
reasonable compared to 31 splined axles prices. Eddie has a spun
aluminum fuel tank he wants to sell. So I took it out to the car and
set it under the rear deck where I wanted to mount a tank. It fits like
it was made for the car. The body mold for the upper shock mount is the
perfect shape to hold the tank it place. The inlet is on the end unlike
the new ones that are mostly centered. That will allow me to use the
original Avanti fuel tank inlet. The outlet fitting lines up perfectly
with an existing hole in the body. Too Cool! I will need to upgrade the
outlet 3/4 pipe and put a 90 degree fitting on the inlet and add a vent
but that's easy and will give me some tig time. So we struck a deal. I
removed the wood and bracket set up for the water tank and sure enough
there is cement in the spare tire well. It even has a ring installed so
it could be lifted out if needed. Cool.
So then I wanted to see what shape the paint was in. So I fired up my
MBX Blaster tool and cleaned up some of the marks on the paint. Then I
removed all the pinstripe residue from the color stripes. Then I wiped
down the drivers door with our Kent Speedy 500 and it looks great. I
plan to leave the chips and scratches and other imperfections in the
paint until after El Mirage. I think it will look like the perfect
survivor race car when we get done with it. Did some calculations on
the interior. Will need to make some mods but nothing serious. I
switched to the rust removing wire wheel on the Blaster and tried it
out on the frame. It works great. So once the car is on the rotissery
the frame can be cleaned and inspected and repaired. So it goes well.
Here's some pictures from today. Please note that the last picture is
of the sunvisors and rocker switches that are still in the car. It will
take pictures of the other interior parts next time. Is this car COOL
or what. I feel like it's 1969 all over again when I work on it.
Hope to learn more about the car this weekend.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Tom Osborne Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 1439 Location: Port Alberni British Columbia Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ya
Dan, And you just might be a redneck!! Welcome to the others. I like
the Idea of loading weight into the tank, However the center of gravity
is more than I would prefer. I think that mounting the diff more solid
and adding weight where the mufflers used to be might just give the car
the steady down force and traction it needs,, .Lower is better. Also
the action of the rear suspension unloads the car creating the usual
chopping or on off traction as it try's to compensate. Tire shake can
be really bad some years. Its better to have only around 2-3" of
travel. Adjustable preload Limiter straps are a good investment. If you
spin out at 185 MPH the rear of car will not grab air so violently
because it is now limited in unload travel. (up) When you visit some
video clips of some serious crashes at Bonneville, you might get the
point how serious this is. Some cars take to the air while going
sideways, others when in the 180 degree position. You can see this
problem more abundant in Nascar , Salt is a bit more forgiving as you
may never crash into something or over the fence. But its a hard hit
just the same. When Dave Bloomberg's Avanti lost the motor in 06' Dave
seen the need to help another Avanti team out (Chevy Powered) That car
spun out a few times, Both crews swapped out Daves ballast onto the
other Avanti , It was mounted low in the trunk, I think the weight was
close to 500 pounds, and it made Jims Avanti settle down and pull hard
and much safer. It was a real swet out, but kept a team running, And it
also kept Daves crew with a strong sense of accomplishment, Many
lessons were learned. I rather like the idea of mounting exrta weight
to the frame on ready rods, you can add or subtract easily. The SCTA
rulings are getting cars safer year after year, And even though this
happens, there are racers that come along and cancel out rulings in a
blink with better innovations. It appears that you have a good handle
on things, I greatly enjoy your project, Keep up the nice work , Thanks
Tom O. _________________ "First by far with a post war car"
TOM-O-HAWK STREET/STRIP Project |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject: Sorry about that. |
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Hey
guys I thought that after I posted the pictures it would be safe to put
them in an album on Photobucket. After I did that it changed the
address and this site lost the link since it had changed. So lesson
learned. Don't change make changes after you've posted. Set up the
album first and then post. So once again here are some pics from
yesterday.
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Enjoy
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:07 am Post subject: We will have BRAKES!! |
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Hey
everyone. I received a check in the mail from someone who wanted to be
a part of the Bucket List Dream. Ironically it was almost the exact
amount that was needed to pay for the parts for fixing the brakes on
the car. Pretty cool! So I have a big box of parts that will replace
everything but the backing plates which are in good shape. New shoes,
wheel cylinders, hardware, adjusters, rubber brake hose and steel
lines. So maybe by next week we will have brakes. This should make it
easier to move the car around and safer to load on and off the trailer.
Might even use them once or twice in Utah. So I will post pictures
inlcuding the high tech paint for the backing plates when the work is
in progress.
I also made a cardboard model of the ice water aftercooler box so
that I could see how it fits and make adjustments. I made it bigger
than needed so that I could scale it down to fit the area available
under the hood. Pictures to follow.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:07 am Post subject: This is going to be a busy week! |
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Yesterday
I met with the friend of mine who is going to do the lettering on the
car for El Mirage. He is going to do part vinyl and part paint. He took
the measurements and would like to have the car delivered to his place
this Friday. That means the body has to be prepped where the lettering
will go at least. And I will need to finish the brakes so the car can
be put on the ground and loaded on the trailer.
Lots of decisions regarding the engine. The block will need to be
set up for dry sump and the engine builder doesn't feel it will be
ready before late Summer. So I am pursuing Plan B. I am looking for a
back up engine or maybe an engine for El Mirage and another for
Bonneville. Talking to a lot of people right now.
For the record I talked to Ted Harbit and he has already torn down
the Chicken Hawk engine and is getting it ready for the Stude Tomato.
So that is off the table. I think he was disappointed he didn't know
about this project before he got started. But he was very helpful and
wished me the best of success. Great guy to talk to and very
knowledgeable.
So as soon as I have a plan in place I will share it here. Look for
pictures this week of the brake and body work. You will see some of the
latest in fiberglass repair products used to repair the front fender.
So stay tuned.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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HNCadet R2 Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Dan,
Looking forward to see the fiberglass repair. Got my wife's Avanti back
from the shop and the firewall is filled with holes that aren't used
anymore, also I'll need to fill-in the shifter hole in the console as
we are now using a floppy-paddle shifter, not to mention repairing the
holes in the floorboards where all the seats and seatbelt mounts once
were............I've got a lot of patching to do!
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stewed R2 Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Here ya go Dan:
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HNCadet R2 Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Holy
Cow Stewed! Where did you find that? The cars still Gold!, so it had to
be 64 or 65.........think Bill went to his fav. color purple when they
dropped in the 427 Ford side oiler. That was 66 or 67 I recall reading
somewhere. It was '66!
THANK YOU!
Looking closely at the picture, the red pickup behind the car looks to
be a '65 ElCamino? look at the roofline and the gray car behind it
appears to be a '65 or '66 Chevy Impala, not a Cadillac man so I'm not
sure the year there.
Hey Dan TORCO has moved to Rancho Cucamonga, CA. on Milliken Ave.
Wonder if they'd be interested in supplying the Oils and greases and
repro'ing that sign for the doors again? (909) 980-1495. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:54 am Post subject: Nice picture |
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Stewed and HNCadet,
Wow nice picture. Yes the Gold paint would seem to indicate before 1966
when the Ford was installed. Steve Burke will be able to give us more
info on this picture when we finally meet with him. I was working on
the car today and I was looking at the interior with my builder
discussing the transmission tunnel fab. I noticed that the right side
floor boards are Gold. When you chip off the tan paint on the floor pan
the Gold is there. I plan to remove as much of the tan as possible so
the Gold shows through. It took me three hours to clean and sand the
backing plates. I plan to prime and paint them on Wednesday since
tomorrow it's supposed to rain all day. The paint flows real nice at 65
to 70 degrees. Looks just like powdercoating. Heavy duty rust
protection too.
I will contact Torco and see what I can do. So far I have been very
successful at getting people involved. Keep watching for the plastic
repair. I need to do the left front fender before the lettering is
applied as it will go right over the crack that is at the apex of the
fender. The product I will be using is the best there is out there
right now. I will talk to you about using it on your wife's car after
you see the results on the Burke car.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:13 am Post subject: Interesting! |
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OK
Today I was calling on my customers and mentioning the need of an
engine at least El Mirage. One of my customers told me he thought he
knew of a guy who had an engine that would work. So he will get back to
me. Another customer told me to go see a guy named Ray in Lompoc who
had Bonneville experience and they thought he had an engine. Well I
talked to Ray and he has lot's of Bonneville experience. He also has an
engine. 541 Cubic inches of twin turbo'd Chevy making about 2000
horsepower. Yikes! I though he was kidding me until he opened a cabinet
that was full of pistons and rods and clutch discs and camshafts and
other parts for the engine. He showed me a picture of the car at the
track and it is an old Don Prudomme funny car body and chassis. He is
thinking about my proposal of lending me the engine. He did tell me he
would sell me the engine with the clutch, bellhousing, and a three
speed Lenco transmission and all the spare parts. Just needs to be
freshened up. I figure I could use about 70% of the available
horsepower and go about 250 to 275MPH. Amazingly he only wants $15,000
for everything including boxes and boxes of spare parts. Not a bad
price considering what you get for it. So another option and another
day. Time will tell what I end up with but it's sure fun chasing down
these leads.
Hope to put the brakes on the car on Thursday and buff the paint for
the lettering. Got all the product I need for the fiberglass repairs
today so maybe that can happen too. I promise pictures. That's it for
now.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Dave Bloomberg Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Wow,
Dan that is cheap HP especially considering I have about $30K in my
Studebaker engine at 800hp, keep us informed on this idea, sure sounds
good to me, take care, Dave _________________ Original owner of
1963 Avanti, race my Avanti at Bonneville, Muroc Dry lake & El
Mirage, presently hold world records for D/CPS at Bonneville, Muroc
& El Mirage race courses.
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:28 am Post subject: What about tuning? |
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Dave,
I agree about the HP per dollar spent. But now that I have had a moment
to think about it one nagging question keeps coming up. What about
tuning such a high strung engine? With fuel injection and two turbos
the tuning would seem to be a task. Ray told me that the ignition is a
hand built unit by the owner of MSD. The engine was set up to monitor
everything (24 channels of info) and had O2 and pyrometers for each
cylinder. So you would have a lot of input to reveiw but could it be
tuned for Bonneville use? I would guess that even if you missed the
tune on the conservative side and didn't make 2000HP it wouldn't make
that much difference since I peg the Avanti's top end figure at 275MPH.
After that I am not sure the car is set up to go faster, safely. I
might be wrong but that's my estimation. So if you stay on the soft
side with timing and keep it rich to protect the pistons and valves and
make 1500HP is that bad? So let the debate begin.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Dave Bloomberg Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes
Dan I agree you tune the engine on the rich side (loss of HP) but stay
safe for the engine to survive a 5 mile course at WOT. To ensure you
tune is OK I would suggest you go on a chassis dyno, then with
pyrometers and wide band O2 sensor tune engine, then when you go to
Bonneville which is elevation of 4400ft above sea level, you fuel/air
mixture will be a little richer than at the location of the chassis
dyno, thus even safer for engine. As far as running the car to 275mph,
I think thats a huge jump, I would suggest not going over 250mph as a
goal. Even to go that fast you will have to add ballast and a rear
spoiler/wing like Jim Lange did to his car for better traction. This is
alowed (wing/spoiler) in the AA/CBGALT racing class. I'm sure you will
have to use 118 octane racing leaded gas for that setup, that's what I
use too, about $14 a gallon.
Take care, Dave _________________ Original owner of 1963
Avanti, race my Avanti at Bonneville, Muroc Dry lake & El Mirage,
presently hold world records for D/CPS at Bonneville, Muroc & El
Mirage race courses.
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64Avanti Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Dan,
To go go 250 will take about 1300 hp and to go 275 will take about 1700 hp.
You would most likely need to have something in the order of 1000 lbs +
of ballast over the rear plus a spoiler. any spoiler will increase
drag. Also since it is behind the rear axle the downforce created by
the spoiler will tend to unload the front. So you should consider a
front splitter. If you only go about 200 to 220 mph you should be ok
with just a rear spoiler and ballast. _________________ David Livesay |
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Tom Osborne Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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And Salt conditions can change things daily. _________________ "First by far with a post war car"
TOM-O-HAWK STREET/STRIP Project |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:31 am Post subject: Thank you! |
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Thank
you everyone for all the great advice and input. That's why I post
things here. I figure no better place to turn for wise counsel than to
guys who have been there and done that. I am sending a letter to the
guy with the 2000HP engine to thank him for spending time with me and
to keep the idea of helping with the project fresh in his mind.
I finished the best I could the brakes for the Avanti today. I will
need to to some detail work and get the right parts to make it the way
it should be. I didn't paint the brake drums because in cleaning them I
notcied that they were painted silver. I didn't have any silver paint
so I will paint them when I go through the rear differential. I'm
trying to make this a resto project so will attempt to stay with
original colors ect. Will pick up new oil seals in the morning and
install them before I put the backing plates back on the car. Here are
some pics of the project. First I cleaned the backing plates to remove
surface rust and grime.
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Then I primed the plates.
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Then a tac coat was applied.
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Then the first coat.
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Then the second and heaviest coat to seal and protect.
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I was using paint that my company makes. I normally would have used
a self etch primer but I was out of it. So I used a dust/tack coat of
High Build primer. The paint is like no other paint I have ever used
out of a can. It is a high solids industrial paint that contains half
the fillers and other junk that rattle can paints usually have in them.
This stuff looks like powdercoat when applied to clean metal and it
holds up real good. The secret to stopping rust is to deny it of air.
Air contains moisture and combined it lets rust grow. Most paints are
too thin to seal out air especially primers. Not so with this stuff.
It's even UV resistant. So after the paint dried it was time to
assemble the brakes.
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So tomorrow the Avanti will have brakes. I plan to paint the wheel
cylinders when I do the differential inspection. Also the lower spring
was the wrong one so I will need to get the right one to eliminate the
self adjuster bar and make them manual adjusting. But it will work for
now. Wish I had more time to make them nicer but they will do for now.
Look for pics tomorrow of the install.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:44 am Post subject: We have brakes! |
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Today
I was able to make the brakes work on the Avanti. The parts store gave
me the wrong oil seals which will require taking things back apart
again to install them but at least I now know that the brake system is
in working order with no leaks. The master cylinder does not leak down
and appears to work great. Sorry I was so invloved and my wife was
working on the paint restoration that we forgot to take pictures. I
will take pictures of the fine job my wife did in making the paint look
great. I will also take pictures when I install the seals.
The car will go next Tuesday to Santa Maria, forty miles South, to have
the lettering applied. After the lettering is done the media blitz will
start. I hope to have things launched by the end of the month and
hopefully people will respond and join the team. I am going to post a
""needs" list here to see if anyone has the things that are needed to
make the car ready for Bonneville. Look for it next week. That's it for
now.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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s2dbaker R2 Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 103 Location: Chico, Ca.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Hey Dan-
Did you get a look at the poster board that Allan's friend did for him for his '56 showing at the GNRS show??
I bet if you commissioned him to design a retro looking "Burke Avanti
Returns to the Salt" T-shirt they'd sell like hot cakes and help raise
a few $$$ for the project.
Maybe you could have Bondo Billy over on the SDC forum help with the screen printing???
Just a thought...I mean, who doesn't like a T-Shirts...especially ones with a fast Stude theme?? _________________ Studebaker Projects Include:
1954 Commander w/ R1 and T5
1963 Avanti w/ LT1 and 4L60E
Other Toys:
1966 BSA Lightning
1972 BMW R75/5 Toaster Tank
1987 Chris Craft Stinger 222
2001 BMW 325i Sport
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 258
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:31 am Post subject: T-Shirts |
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s2dbaker,
Great idea. I will look into it. We have people lining up to sign the
underside of the hood and trunk for a gift for the project. We have
list of people willing to plunk down some change for a chance to have
their picture taken sitting in the World Famous Avanti. Are you aware
of the fact that the British Broadcasting Company sent a crew over here
to Bonneville to do a feature stroy on the car? A photographer friend
is going to shoot some publicity shoots that we will give away
autographed for a gift. So why not T-Shirts. I think after El Mirage we
can come up with a photo at speed that would make a nice shirt too. So
I will contact Bondo Billy and Allen and see if something can be worked
out. Road trip tomorrow to pick up the mock up pieces. Progress, I love
it.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 258
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: Got it! |
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My
buddy Richard and I traveled up to Carmichael today. We were able to
meet Gordon Tarbell and his wife Lynn. We picked up a block, long snout
crank, heads, valve covers, front cover, oil pan, water housing,
starter, distributor and intake manifold. We will be using them to make
the mounts and plumb the engine to the car. Hopefully I will also get
over and make the headers soon too. So progress was made. One step at a
time.
After we loaded the parts we went over the automobile museum in
Sacramento. They had just taken down the Studebaker display but the car
I wanted to see was still there. Avanti R1007 is on display and if you
make it into the area it is worth the $8 to see it. It is the most
original R3 known to exist according to the display. Thay have pictures
of Andy Granatelli and Paula Murphy taken at Bonneville. Also some
records of the car and it's history. Had a great time with the docents.
They were very interested in the Burke Avanti story. Showed them the
binder with all the info I have gathered and the photos. I think they
would like to display the car in the museum sometime. Here are the
photos I took. Sorry about the quality. I don't know how to adjust the
flash for indoors shots. I'll figure that out before next time. Kathy
and I will be taking the borrowed parts back and will spend the day at
the museum. More photos then if it's still there.
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The license stickers are 1963 and 1964. The mileage is 18,000.
Sorry about the frame plate picture. I will make sure my wife get's a
clear one. It reads R1007 but you'll have to trust me on that one.
Let me say that meeting Gordon and his wife is more icing on the
cake. Everyone from Racing Studebakers that I have met are wonderful
people who are so eager to help me with this project. All of you are
restoring my faith in mankind one day at a time. Thank you.
Silver Hawk Dan
P.S. I was asked to share the Burke Avanti and Bucket List Dream story on the SDC site. So look for it soon.[/img] _________________ Grew
up Studebaker. Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced
successfully in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going
to be flying down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Alan Studebaker Racing Team Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 1045 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Dan, That is John Hora's car, right? |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 258
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject: Yes, |
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Alan,
You are correct. I guess John lent it to the Sacramento museum while he
is working on a different home for it. It was brought to the regional
SDC meeting and then rolled into the museum. It's been there since May.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 258
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:11 am Post subject: More Accomplished |
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Well
despite the weather I was able to get some things done between rain
showers. I was able to measure the mock up pieces to see what size
bolts I will need to assemble it next week. Here is a picture of the
parts that were lent to me by Gordon.
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I was also able to store the transmission and crankshaft in a safe place.
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That's right safely stored in my upstairs office. I make my wife
crazy sometimes. I also had time to make the motor mounts for the
Avanti to Studebaker Mid Engine conversion.
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Someone said I should have used maple instead of a douglas fir two
by four but too late now. Here they are after the mounting stud was
installed.
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Should work fine for the mock up since they are built to the
dimensions of the poly and metal ones that will be here next week. I
also got a chance to clean the nasty oil pan I borrowed.
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So if all goes well and the weather cooperates we will install the
engine and trans in the car on Monday. Also hope to install the new
axle seals. And if he shows up, the car will recieve a nice set of
custom lettering to get the message out for upcoming events. That's all
for now. More next week.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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