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bams50
Commander Member
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Posted - 11/01/2009 : 5:54:02 PM
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We've heard about this car, and now it's for sale What'll it do- $30K?
https://tinyurl.com/yggaf73
Edited to add a SECOND R3! See below.
Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys) Parish, central NY 13131
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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Kurt
Cruiser Member
USA
183 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 6:05:17 PM
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At least. Wish I could afford it.
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mbstude
Commander Member
USA
6586 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 6:08:12 PM
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I love how the ad refers to my YouTube videos.
Matthew Burnette Hazlehurst, GA
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DEEPNHOCK
Commander Member
USA
6942 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 6:11:15 PM
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I would be real surprised if it got close to that.. (But I would like to be real surprised) Jeff
quote: Originally posted by bams50
We've heard about this car, and now it's for sale What'll it do- $30K?
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comatus
Cruiser Member
USA
181 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 6:14:39 PM
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I don't want to be that guy, but.
I'd have to see that factory traction control (on mine that's called "wheelspin") and 3.33 rear end. Best I could do was 3.31. |
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JBOYLE
Commander Member
USA
2401 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 6:17:38 PM
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I was looking at the Old Cars Price Guide yesterday... It said something like an R-3 is worth 60% more than an R-1. If that's the case, it should bering more than $30K
I was a bit surprised, it said a #1 R-1 was only worth $30K...that means a perfect trailered car. There aren't too many Avantis that fit that description, how many were trailered to the Iowa meet? They say a #2 car (which would be a high point car at SDC meets)is only worth $19K...seems a bit low.
63 Avanti R1 2788 1914 Stutz Bearcat (George Barris replica)
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Dick Steinkamp
Commander Member
USA
8361 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 6:33:16 PM
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quote: Originally posted by JBOYLE
They say a #2 car (which would be a high point car at SDC meets)is only worth $19K...seems a bit low.
Low if you're an owner or a seller...high if you're a buyer
Dick Steinkamp Bellingham, WA
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Mr Speed 53
Champion Member
17 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 6:49:22 PM
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I am curious to see how much its worth beacause I have a white/orange
63 R-3 4speed Avanti also on u-tube.I feel lucky to have it and dont
plan on selling! Ed |
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Laemmle
Golden Hawk Member
USA
761 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 7:11:41 PM
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For a clone car?
quote: Originally posted by bams50
We've heard about this car, and now it's for sale What'll it do- $30K?
https://tinyurl.com/yggaf73
Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys) Parish, central NY 13131
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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Laemmle
Golden Hawk Member
USA
761 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 7:13:50 PM
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Hey Ed,
If the bozos on the beltway continue on their current course..you might have to re-think your statement:-(
quote: Originally posted by Mr Speed 53
I
am curious to see how much its worth beacause I have a white/orange 63
R-3 4speed Avanti also on u-tube.I feel lucky to have it and dont plan
on selling! Ed
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Mr Speed 53
Champion Member
17 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 7:21:09 PM
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I believe the engine in the e-bay car was in So Bend at a may swap
meet?cant remember the year but the engine was beautiful.Thought it
alone sold for the 20k range.Ed |
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barnlark
Commander Member
USA
3513 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 7:25:32 PM
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I wish him luck, but the name dropping and certain pictures with poor
detailing may be more of a hinderance, rather than appeal to a serious
money buyer.
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bams50
Commander Member
9655 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 7:38:04 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Laemmle
For a clone car?
Yes,
I think so. I think it is a top-notch car and engine. I bet he paid
Solanki all of that for the engine, conversion and labor. It appears he
has done everything all-out, no expense spared. But Dave is right, it
rates a MUCH more professional listing- how about the interior shot
with the dirty camera lens?
A
few years ago, I bet it would have done $50K plus; times what they are,
I'm guessing 30. The guys that can afford that kind of money for a
toy/investment that I know are successful businessmen that can buy but
are very nervous about the near future, so they're reducing debt and
battening down the hatches. In any case it's fun to guess at the price
and see what happens
I just LOVE those wheels. I'd love a set but can't imagine what they're worth
Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys) Parish, central NY 13131
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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Jessie J.
Regal Member
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 7:40:09 PM
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My #1 concern on this one would be, is this R-3 equipped with the genuine factory production R-3 cylinder heads? Or are they 'Nimesh modified' standard heads? That would make a substantial
difference in the value. Buying a rare engine like this one is alleged
to be, it would be advisable for one to do their homework first, and
make certain they are actually getting what it is, that they are going
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Dick Steinkamp
Commander Member
USA
8361 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 7:45:27 PM
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quote: Originally posted by bams50
I just LOVE those wheels. I'd love a set but can't imagine what they're worth
They are about $300 each...
https://www.newstalgiawheel.com/wheel_detail.asp?subcat3=1091100
There are other similar knock offs that are less expensive.
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Dick Steinkamp Bellingham, WA
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bams50
Commander Member
9655 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 7:48:44 PM
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Holy cow, thanks for the link, Dick. I've got that bookmarked for later reference
Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys) Parish, central NY 13131
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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Avanti82
Champion Member
40 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 8:00:18 PM
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There was a much better numbers matching original Super Charged car on
eBay a few weeks ago that was a musuem car. It looked near perfect and
only got to $19,000 on eBay and did not meet reserve.
The
interior on this clone looks a little rough and it has been "butchered"
by removing the automatic transmission and adding the four speed. I
would bet that this car will probably not reach $19,000 in the bidding.
The market is pretty bad for cars and aircraft right now. I would not
think this car would be very desirable to a serious collector.
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JDP
Commander Member
USA
9155 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 8:11:44 PM
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quote: Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK
I would be real surprised if it got close to that.. (But I would like to be real surprised) Jeff
quote: Originally posted by bams50
We've heard about this car, and now it's for sale What'll it do- $30K?
No way it will be close to 30K if someone wants it, the engine alone was in the 25K range and the car "should" bring 50K plus.
JDP/Maryland
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PackardV8
Commander Member
USA
1540 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 8:48:33 PM
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We'll all be watching, but I'm betting it doesn't meet reserve. A
modified car is one person's vision. Finding a buyer with the same
money who shares that vision doesn't happen often.
thnx, jack vines
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JDP
Commander Member
USA
9155 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 8:53:30 PM
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I agree, it may not make reserve on ebay. Another Avanti converted with
a "B" motor sold for 75K at Barrette Jackson, or the like, and this one
could be at least as nice, but ebay might not be the venue.
JDP/Maryland
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Swifster
Commander Member
USA
3261 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 9:16:01 PM
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I'll say it'll do around $45K. With it being a clone, the engine is worth $25K and the rest $15K (IMO). We'll see how it goes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom - Mulberry, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)
1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)
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Guido
Commander Member
USA
5121 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 9:55:39 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Swifster
I'll say it'll do around $45K. With it being a clone, the engine is worth $25K and the rest $15K (IMO). We'll see how it goes.
Tom,
You may want to check your math.....
25K 15K 40K
Just helping out.
Decimal Dude
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful" and real Studebaker horsepower lives
See pictures here: https://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va. |
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bams50
Commander Member
9655 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 10:32:45 PM
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quote: Originally posted by JDP
the engine alone was in the 25K range and the car "should" bring 50K plus.
That's what I thought, but factoring in the economics I'm guessing 30, reserve not met.
Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys) Parish, central NY 13131
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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sals54
Commander Member
1427 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 11:28:23 PM
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Swifster, I think you're on the money for the $45K. Was the R3 option
also a dealer installed option? If so, would that not make this car
potentially a "correct" R3? Even if its not one of the original factory
R3s, would it not still be considered a correct R3? Someone please
correct me if I'm wrong.
sals54
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StudeRich
Commander Member
USA
6794 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 11:47:59 PM
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quote: Originally posted by sals54
Swifster,
I think you're on the money for the $45K. Was the R3 option also a
dealer installed option? If so, would that not make this car
potentially a "correct" R3? Even if its not one of the original factory
R3s, would it not still be considered a correct R3? Someone please
correct me if I'm wrong.
I
think for a car like this to have a serious value, it would have to be
a well documented original, installed by a Dealer or at Paxton Products
like most were.
I do know of such a car that was an R2 4 speed
with a Dealer installed R3 replacement engine with documentation, but
we already know this car definitely is NOT!
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JDP
Commander Member
USA
9155 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 11:52:29 PM
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quote: Originally posted by sals54
Swifster,
I think you're on the money for the $45K. Was the R3 option also a
dealer installed option? If so, would that not make this car
potentially a "correct" R3? Even if its not one of the original factory
R3s, would it not still be considered a correct R3? Someone please
correct me if I'm wrong.
sals54
It's a recent swap, not done back in the 60's.
JDP/Maryland
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Thomas63R2
Golden Hawk Member
USA
511 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 12:01:29 AM
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Easy prediction: it will be sold, and the buyer will not be among the replies on this topic.
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JDP
Commander Member
USA
9155 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 12:07:28 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Thomas63R2
Easy prediction: it will be sold, and the buyer will not be among the replies on this topic.
Thomas
It won't be me, I put in a healthy, more than I can really afford bid, and did not hit the reserve.
JDP/Maryland
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clonelark
Golden Hawk Member
USA
737 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 02:42:25 AM
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Everyone is knocking this car for being a clone, so what, find an
original one of the nine R-3 Avanti's. How many have been for sale. The
car is quite nice, and was done by someone who was quite knowledgeable
in R-3s. As for the heads, id have to know what heads were on it, ask
the owner, if not real R3 heads price accordingly. He is about a month
early or i'd be on it also.
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studegary
Commander Member
USA
5841 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 12:49:39 PM
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quote: Originally posted by sals54
Swifster,
I think you're on the money for the $45K. Was the R3 option also a
dealer installed option? If so, would that not make this car
potentially a "correct" R3? Even if its not one of the original factory
R3s, would it not still be considered a correct R3? Someone please
correct me if I'm wrong.
sals54
Many
R3s were assembled after the factory ten (nine Avantis), but I do not
believe that they were ever a factory authorized optional item.
Gary L. Wappinger, NY SDC member since 1968 Studebaker enthusiast much longer |
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PackardV8
Commander Member
USA
1540 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 3:35:16 PM
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Clones may get a few looks at a show, but they don't get no respect at
auction. Car collectors are a picky lot. Studebaker collectors are
picky-picky. My estimate is one of the nine factory R3s is worth 2-3
times as much a clone in equal condition.
Same with Corvettes.
They are picky-picky-picky, because there are several times more '67
435hp 427" convertibles running today than GM built. Those documented
cars are also worth 3-4 times more than a clone.
Lots of perfect
hemi Cuda convertible clones running around for 100k$, but one of the
six or so factory originals brings a million, ten times as much, so are
Mopar collectors picky to the tenth power?
The Sunbeam Tiger
Owners Association has a team of certification inspectors who will
determine whether it is a genuine Tiger or a converted Alpine. Often
the converted Alpines are better built than the originals, but worth
less than half as much.
As always, your car, your money, your decision on what and how to build. The market will decide for you what it is worth.
thnx, jack vines
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Swifster
Commander Member
USA
3261 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 4:54:58 PM
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quote: Originally posted by clonelark
Everyone
is knocking this car for being a clone, so what, find an original one
of the nine R-3 Avanti's. How many have been for sale. The car is quite
nice, and was done by someone who was quite knowledgeable in R-3s. As
for the heads, id have to know what heads were on it, ask the owner, if
not real R3 heads price accordingly. He is about a month early or i'd
be on it also.
There
are extremely few 'clones' that will bring anywhere near original
pricing. The PBW would be one of those because of the documentation
going back to the original purchase. It probably wouldn't bring the
same money as Nelson's Commander, but it would be close because it was
completed not long after purchase.
There were numerous engine
swaps made at the dealershipship level (Royal Pontiac, Berger
Chevrolet, Yenko Chevrolet, etc.) that will bring big money if the
documentation is right. A lot of 427 Chevelles were sold in '68-'69,
but if the paperwork has been lost the car isn't worth what it could
be. I'd love one of the few Royal Bobcats (GTO) that left Royal Pontiac
with a tri-Power 421.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom - Mulberry, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)
1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)
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mbstude
Commander Member
USA
6586 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 5:03:29 PM
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I wonder what happened to those YouTube videos on the ebay car... Looks like they got deleted.
Matthew Burnette Hazlehurst, GA
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clonelark
Golden Hawk Member
USA
737 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:01:31 PM
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Well if i had to choose, i'd pic the PBW over Nels car. Both are very nice. Guess thats the old drag racer in me.
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Swifster
Commander Member
USA
3261 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:33:50 PM
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I would think tuned and with the same driver, Nelson's car would be
just as fast. I like blue better than brown though. Of course I'd drool
over both paint jobs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom - Mulberry, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)
1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)
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R2Andy
Cruiser Member
USA
213 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 11:28:24 PM
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One of the problems with so many of the R3 "clones" is that they aren't
accurate. There is so much more to an R3 car besides just plopping an
engine with the heads and air box between the fenders.
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Jessie J.
Regal Member
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:52:31 AM
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The PBW has a documented racing 'pedigree' that is only surpassed by the 'Chicken Hawk'. This is
the famous Studebaker that has actually 'been there, and done that', as
is well documented in photos, video, and numerous Turning Wheels
references and articles. As one who has had the pleasure year after
year of watching the PBW, with Ted at the wheel, take on, and
consistently defeat some of the most famous American Muscle Cars ever
built, this car and its credentials have been unsurpassed in
establishing (in the public eye) the performance capabilities of the
R-3 powered Studebaker's.
I grew up in a time when 'performance minded people', my 'bench racing buddies', actually laughed out loud at any suggestion that a Studebaker! powered Studebaker could ever be the equal of their vaunted 'Big Three' real Muscle Cars. They
no longer laugh when a Studebaker comes to the line at the PSMCD's, not
even at the 'lowly' R-1 or R-2 models, which have also proven quite
effective at defeating Muscle Cars having a 100 cubic inch, or
horsepower advantage.
While Nelson's Commander is desirable, it is the exploits of The PBW that made, and that keep it relevant. True, it is the one, and the only original factory R-3 Lark, on that basis alone it represents a pinnacle of Studebaker desirability. But other than that, it is little more than a final footnote to a story of Studebaker's failure. The PBW on the other hand is a testament to Studebaker's actual performance potential. A Winner!, a victorious defender of the 'Name', and the reputation of our once proud marque.
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JDP
Commander Member
USA
9155 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 10:20:06 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Jessie J.
The PBW has a documented racing 'pedigree' that is only surpassed by the 'Chicken Hawk'. This is
the famous Studebaker that has actually 'been there, and done that', as
is well documented in photos, video, and numerous Turning Wheels
references and articles. As one who has had the pleasure year after
year of watching the PBW, with Ted at the wheel, take on, and
consistently defeat some of the most famous American Muscle Cars ever
built, this car and its credentials have been unsurpassed in
establishing (in the public eye) the performance capabilities of the
R-3 powered Studebaker's.
I grew up in a time when 'performance minded people', my 'bench racing buddies', actually laughed out loud at any suggestion that a Studebaker! powered Studebaker could ever be the equal of their vaunted 'Big Three' real Muscle Cars. They
no longer laugh when a Studebaker comes to the line at the PSMCD's, not
even at the 'lowly' R-1 or R-2 models, which have also proven quite
effective at defeating Muscle Cars having a 100 cubic inch, or
horsepower advantage.
While Nelson's Commander is desirable, it is the exploits of The PBW that made, and that keep it relevant. True, it is the one, and the only original factory R-3 Lark, on that basis alone it represents a pinnacle of Studebaker desirability. But other than that, it is little more than a final footnote to a story of Studebaker's failure. The PBW on the other hand is a testament to Studebaker's actual performance potential. A Winner!, a victorious defender of the 'Name', and the reputation of our once proud marque.
While
I agree with the thrust of your post, Nelson's car has much more real
world value, and that's takes nothing away from the PBR. Any collectors
willing to part with the big bucks for the only production R3 Lark
would care little about drag racing history. having said that, they are
both worth more than I can afford.
JDP/Maryland
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Jessie J.
Regal Member
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 1:47:26 PM
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Yeah, but when it comes to Studebaker's, I don't live in the 'real world', never have, never will. It is my dreams (most all of which I have never been able to afford) that never die.
In a 'real world'... my first choice would probably be a nice new Camry...NOT!!! NO WAY!!! NO HOW!!! I'll just cherish my old Stude's, and my dreams of the ones that I can't afford,.. and the ones that I let 'get away'.
The things I value most in this world, are not valued according to what anyone else is willing to pay, but by what is most meaningful to me. Life is short, and its best things are priceless.
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bams50
Commander Member
9655 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 4:33:51 PM
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quote: Originally posted by JDP
Any collectors willing to part with the big bucks for the only production R3 Lark would care little about drag racing history.
I
think that's probably correct in this instance; but interestingly it
seems the opposite is true for big 3 racers. I saw a 70 Chevelle
Convertible, BB 4-speed on BJ a year or two ago. Normal B-J price for
that car was maybe $75-150K. But this one had belonged to a famous drag
racer (don't recall who) and had his name stenciled on the car. Sale
price? One Million dollars
It's a funny hobby...
Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys) Parish, central NY 13131
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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JBOYLE
Commander Member
USA
2401 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 4:58:55 PM
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I agree with Jack Vines....
Average
guys don't mind clones...they see them as a way to have a nice car at a
semi-reasonable price. And since most high dollar muscle cars were
based on common affordable cars to begin with, it's fairly easy to make
a near perfect replica. Pay 1/10th for an identical car...where only a
VIN reader will know the difference? Sure, I'll take one. I don't know aboutthe rest of you guys but I have other things to spend money on.
Serious collectors don't like them. They're going for museum pieces. I doubt if the owner of a million dollar Hemi' cuda will be driving it much or having fun like the clone owner will.
63 Avanti R1 2788 1914 Stutz Bearcat (George Barris replica)
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Mr Speed 53
Champion Member
17 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 5:40:59 PM
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I am very happy with my clone Avanti engine B109.The car was once owned
by Maryann Harbit and then by George Krem I bought it from Dick
Stuart.George installed the engine around 1969 and was told by Paxton
it was built with the last set of R-3 heads they had.It also was built
with a standard R1-R2 oil pan, single breather valve covers and R-5
dished pistons.I had to basic mechanical items to get it back on the
road after a 30 year nap.It has been very reliable and driven to a lot
of Stude events.I feel lucky to have it no matter what the value! Ed |
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Bordeaux Daytona
Cruiser Member
USA
144 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 9:13:32 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Mr Speed 53
I
am very happy with my clone Avanti engine B109.The car was once owned
by Maryann Harbit and then by George Krem I bought it from Dick
Stuart.George installed the engine around 1969 and was told by Paxton
it was built with the last set of R-3 heads they had.It also was built
with a standard R1-R2 oil pan, single breather valve covers and R-5
dished pistons.I had to basic mechanical items to get it back on the
road after a 30 year nap.It has been very reliable and driven to a lot
of Stude events.I feel lucky to have it no matter what the value! Ed
I hope Ed doesn't mind if I post some pictures of his Avanti.
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Thomas63R2
Golden Hawk Member
USA
511 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2009 : 12:44:28 AM
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Auctions can be fickle venues, witness the million dollar collector car haircut: https://jalopnik.com/5379095/truppi+kling-chevelle-drag-racer-depreciates-1-million-in-3-years-new-owner-gets-screamin-deal I can't help but think that the low closing price was the result of: 1) Put back on the market too soon, and at an iffy time. 2) That it was very poorly marketed this time around compared with the fabulous job that B-J did in 2006.
I'm
an all makes enthusiast who also owns a couple of brand X collector
cars - and even with the legendary racing record (and the successful
hoodwinking of NHRA officials to make that record possible), the $1.2m
sale of the Truppi-Kling LS6 Chevelle was an anomoly - and the memory
of that highwater B-J sale price may have spoiled the car for bidding
action. The new owner will probably only need to wait a few years to
remarket the car for a realistic $600k. Easy.
The reason why I
think this R3 tribute Avanti will go to someone outside of normal Stude
enthusiast channels is that it will take an outsider's perspective to
see the value.
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Bellingham Studenut
Cruiser Member
USA
177 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2009 : 01:51:31 AM
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The Historic Provenance of any vehicle can be as valuable (or more) to buyers, as Rarity. It can have a history, or famous person in it's past. Aunt Bea's Lark price is a perfect example (would it sell for $20,000 if it wasn't?). If a custom was done by George Barris the value jumps etc. The rarity also needs demand. A high demand for more common brand X cars can bring more $ than many rare Studes. Many rare Studes seem undervalued (by many others), but that comes from demand and supply. Many people enjoy and value the cars, based on personal ownership attachment. The car being sold is a desirable model with a rare engine (not a clone engine) and is in great condition. The
history of the car may not bring as much on Ebay as a factory, or
dealer installed R3 Avanti, but only 1 fortunate bidder can have a
chance to bring/create historic moments into their life enjoying this
car! The car will only sell if the buyer meets, or beats the sellers agreed reserve. Timing, economy, etc can all be factors.
James
The Bell Collection Bellingham, WA. |
Edited by - Bellingham Studenut on 11/04/2009 02:00:49 AM |
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bams50
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bams50
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Posted - 11/04/2009 : 05:42:23 AM
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Now comes a SECOND R3 Avanti!:
https://tinyurl.com/ylb4vgw
It will be interesting to see what R3 Avanti buyers will do...
Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys) Parish, central NY 13131
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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DEEPNHOCK
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Posted - 11/04/2009 : 06:18:44 AM
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I wonder about 'either' engine being correct, since one was purchased, and the other had over 100,000 miles on it. A question to ask, fer sure. Jeff
quote: Originally posted by bams50
Now comes a SECOND R3 Avanti!: https://tinyurl.com/ylb4vgw It will be interesting to see what R3 Avanti buyers will do...
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