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8E45E
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Canada
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  12:19:48 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
My Friday morning South Bend walking tour took place at the home of The Underground Pipe & Valve Company; the current owner of Studebaker's foundry. Many thanks to Devon, son of the owner of the company for giving Mark Frost and myself an excellent tour of the facility!

We checked at the Gatehouse, but no one was home!!



The Studebaker 'S'es are still on the outside of the building.



The Underground Pipe & Valve Company only occupies a fraction of the space inside.



Going by this photo from the 1946 Life magazine photo essay of Studebaker, the foundry didn't appear to be the most glamorous places to work!!







This area appears to have been the sand pit for casting engine blocks, etc. There's lots of sand still here!!













Break time! To the lunchroom!



If it gets too hot, you can hang up your coats here.



At the end of the day, many of the workers went here to get changed before going home. (Boxes belong to Underground Pipe & Valve, the lockers are Studebaker originals)



End of "tour" Next: Proving Grounds Club House

StudeRich
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  01:21:13 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit StudeRich's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks a lot Craig, I love to see good 'ol American History the way it was. It appears not a lot has changed except all the "good stuff": Studebaker engine parts and all types of castings and tons and tons of big heavy tooling and machines are long gone!

That was a great tour! I may not be long before that building joins it's brothers in being leveled, too bad that's what they call progress!

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA
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lstude
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USA
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  05:48:54 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit lstude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Craig. Looking forward to the Club House tour. I looked for it when I was on the test track, but I didn't know where it was.

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showbizkid
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  05:53:25 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit showbizkid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for posting the pix. I am amazed at the general decrepitude of the facilities; amazing to think that a working business actually occupies a building that far gone! With all the peeling lead paint, crumbling brickwork and cast-off bits of stuff laying around, that's got to be an heckuva hazardous place to work.





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Dick Steinkamp
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  09:33:16 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Great "tours", Craig. Thanks.




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Guido
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  3:28:03 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Guido's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The words "EPA Superfund Site" somehow just kept running through my head. Thanks for posting the pictures.


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Karl
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  11:03:52 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing.

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StudHawk60
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Posted - 08/06/2007 :  08:12:08 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Does anybody know when this building is scheduled to be demolished?
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BobPalma
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Posted - 08/06/2007 :  10:47:33 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Cool, Craig. Two notes:

1. The bunker of sand is the pile from which I secured the sand for the little tubs of Foundry Sand distributed to all who attended the 2002 Co-Operator Tech Session.

2. The 5-gallon pails of paint all over the place in the sixth photo; did you look at them? If you had looked carefully, you would have seen that at least several of them are Studebaker paint left over from 1964 (seriously). The labels are hard to read, but when I was in there within the last five years (several times, as a matter of fact!), the label on one pail distinctly said Horizon Green!

It will be sad to see this structure come down. Few buildings speak INDUSTRY like an operating foundry. Imagine: That facility produced at least 300,000 engine blocks and as many cylinder heads during the 1950 model year for production and field service requirments. BP

Edited by - BobPalma on 03/04/2009 08:02:22 AM
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A1956GoldenHawk
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Posted - 08/06/2007 :  1:16:06 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BobPalma

Cool, Craig. Two notes:

1. The bunker of sand is the pile from which I secured the sand for the little tubs of Foundry Sand distributed to all who attended the 2002 Co-Operator Tech Session.

2. The 5-gallon pails of paint all over the place in the sixth photo; did you look at them? If you had looked carefully, you would have seen that at least several of them are Studebaker paint left over from 1964 (seriously). The labels are hard to read, but when I was in there within the last five years (several times, as a matter of fact!), the label on one pail distinctly said Horizon Green!

It will be sad to see this structure come down. Few buildings speak INDUSTRY like an operating foundry. Imagine: That facility produced roughly 400,000 engine blocks and as many cylinder heads during the 1950 model year for production and field service requirments. BP



Yes indeed, very good photography Craig!!! May I ask what type of equipment and what setting you used to get such good results under such poor conditions? I was in the Foundry (just the front office areas) 2 weeks ago securing permission from the current owner to set up a camera on their property to photo-document the demolition of the Studebaker's Machine Shop next door.

BTW...maybe it is not a widely know fact, but Cummins Engine did use the old Studebaker Foundry for a number of years following Studebaker's closure.

I took some pictures a few weeks back of Studebaker Plant #8 (where the NOS parts SASCO now has were originally stored) as they were completing the final phases of demolition. Being computer illiterate, I've yet to figure out exactly how to get them sized properly, uploaded and posted on here to share.


Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana


Edited by - A1956GoldenHawk on 08/06/2007 1:24:10 PM
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hayward
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Posted - 08/06/2007 :  1:26:25 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit hayward's Homepage  Reply with Quote
would someone inform me how to look at the pictures on these threads and marked with a red x thanks

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8E45E
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Canada
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Posted - 08/07/2007 :  06:54:55 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by A1956GoldenHawk


Yes indeed, very good photography Craig!!! May I ask what type of equipment and what setting you used to get such good results under such poor conditions?



I invested in a Nikon D200 digital SLR with an 18-35mm lens to replace my trusty old FM film camera. I used the 'auto' setting for now and using the camera's built-in flash as necessary, as I'm still figuring out all the manual settings!!. I used the 'raw' setting so I could do some lighting and focusing adjustments while uploading them onto the computer (which explains why it took me so long to post these).
My recommendation is to buy an external flash for interior shots such as these; especially when ambient lighting is almost non-existent.

Craig

Craig

Edited by - 8E45E on 08/07/2007 07:02:47 AM
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lstude
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Posted - 08/07/2007 :  07:02:58 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit lstude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
would someone inform me how to look at the pictures on these threads and marked with a red x thanks

HAYWARD/60 LARK


Your computer may not have the power to open the pictures, or if you are on dial up it might take too long.

Leonard Shepherd
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Huck
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USA
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Posted - 08/08/2007 :  2:49:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I was at the 2002 International, I stopped at McDonalds one morning and met a gentleman that worked for Studebaker, in the casting room. This was in the early '60s so I had him autograph my Larks production order. This man loved working for Studebaker. He was still a teenager when the company stopped production but said he would still be working there, if it hadn't. He said the community treated you like a king,if you worked for Studebaker. One could get credit, for example at a furniture store, just by producing a pay stub. I found this especially moving, for this man is African-American. Yep, Studebaker and South Bend are great. Peace, Huck

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super1hawk
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USA
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Posted - 08/08/2007 :  6:16:26 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I wonder what would be going on there if Studebaker was still in bussiness. Is Underground Pipe planning anything? Hopefully not demolition. It looks too far gone to be used for safely manufacturing anything.
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studeclunker
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Posted - 08/08/2007 :  7:40:05 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hey, Craig! My PeoplePC dial-up can't handle this many large pictures. I'd love to see them. Think maybe you can supply a link? My service can do one at a time with thumbnails.


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A1956GoldenHawk
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Posted - 08/08/2007 :  7:57:37 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by super1hawk

Is Underground Pipe planning anything? Hopefully not demolition.


Don't know, but will ask the owner tomorrow or Friday. Did notice several cars, a pick-up truck and a semi parked just "inside" the south entrances of the Foundry building at noon today. Was going to stop and click a few pics., but the wife was in a big hurry!

PS: The Machining Shop (Bldg. 72) just to the north of the Foundry buildings is currently being "gutted" in preparation to bringing it down!


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BobPalma
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Posted - 08/08/2007 :  8:02:48 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by A1956GoldenHawk

quote:
Originally posted by super1hawk

Is Underground Pipe planning anything? Hopefully not demolition.


Don't know, but will ask the owner tomorrow or Friday. Did notice several cars, a pick-up truck and a semi parked just "inside" the south entrances of the Foundry building at noon today.


Underground Pipe & Valve employees frequently park their cars and trucks in that area during the day; some to get out of the sun, others to even work on them. It is common to see activity in that area. No need for alarm yet, but the Foundry is certainly in the crosshairs. BP
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glen
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Posted - 08/08/2007 :  8:03:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another way, would be to send the individual links out, if they
are stored on photobucket or similar site, so those on dial up,
like "Clunk", can see them a lot easier.


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A1956GoldenHawk
Golden Hawk Member

USA
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Posted - 08/08/2007 :  8:26:57 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BobPalma
[brUnderground Pipe & Valve employees frequently park their cars and trucks in that area during the day; some to get out of the sun, others to even work on them. It is common to see activity in that area. No need for alarm yet, but the Foundry is certainly in the crosshairs. BP



You're probably right Bob. I drive down Prairie Ave. 10 times more often than Cotter St. so it would be easy for me to miss some happenings on the south end of the Foundry.

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8E45E
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Canada
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Posted - 08/09/2007 :  08:15:07 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BobPalma


Underground Pipe & Valve employees frequently park their cars and trucks in that area during the day; some to get out of the sun, others to even work on them. It is common to see activity in that area. No need for alarm yet, but the Foundry is certainly in the crosshairs. BP




Underground Pipe & Valve is currently experiencing the same scenario Dennis went through in 2001 with the 405 W. Sample Street property.
The city is in the process of trying to buy the Foundry property for next to nothing; well below the costs of acquiring a new facility, moving stock, etc. The owners are negotiating with the City of South Bend for another property with a suitable structure in the area so the building can be freed up for the enevitable.

Craig
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Gary1953
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USA
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Posted - 08/09/2007 :  4:33:10 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you for posting the both tour pictures. I'm looking forward to more tours when you can.
Thank you again,



Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
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