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studehunter
Cruiser Member

USA
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Posted - 05/02/2010 :  2:39:51 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I am ready to install my front and rear windows and it just dawned on me.....Do I need any type of windshield adhesive along with the rubber? Or do I install the window the rubber seal and the stainless with no other sealent...THANKS A BUNCH

Domenic Manera
1954 Regal Starlight Coupe

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StudeRich
Commander Member

USA
7979 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  2:58:18 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Do not even think about installing them dry!
The Shop manual shows how to use small rope to install the Glass, Gasket and Mouldings as an assembly with a helper pounding the glass in, while you pull the rope out starting at top center from the inside.

They mention using a clay (dum-dum) on the body opening. Today we have sealers like beutal(sp?) for the glass to rubber sealant.

They are many posts here from people who have done it themselves instead of allowing the pro's at the glass shop to do it, some worked, some lost the glass, some leaked.

StudeRich
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studehunter
Cruiser Member

USA
227 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  3:04:46 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
THaT IS MY QUESTION DO I NEED SOME TYPE OF SEALER, I AM AWARE OF THE ROPE TO INSTALL IT. i AM READY BUT I DO NOT HAVE A SEALER IS IT REQUIRED TO HAVE A SEALER OR IS THE RUBBER ALL THAT IS REQUIRED.

THANKS

Domenic Manera
1954 Regal Starlight Coupe
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BobGlasscock
Commander Member

USA
3314 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  3:11:15 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StudeRich

Do not even think about installing them dry!

They are many posts here from people who have done it themselves instead of allowing the pro's at the glass shop to do it, some worked, some lost the glass, some leaked.

StudeRich





'50 Champion, 1 family owner

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31Streetrod
Starlight Member

76 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  3:12:17 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
You won't need any sealant If you are never going to drive it in the rain or wash it with a hose, but otherwise I would highly recommend using sealant.

Lost in the 50's
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StudeRich
Commander Member

USA
7979 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  3:14:49 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by studehunter

THaT IS MY QUESTION DO I NEED SOME TYPE OF SEALER, I AM AWARE OF THE ROPE TO INSTALL IT. i AM READY BUT I DO NOT HAVE A SEALER IS IT REQUIRED TO HAVE A SEALER OR IS THE RUBBER ALL THAT IS REQUIRED.



I thought this was pretty clear:
"They mention using a clay (dum-dum) on the body opening. Today we have sealers like beutal(sp?) for the glass to rubber sealant."

Yes, BOTH inside the gasket and outside or/body opening require two different types of sealant!

I was hoping that someone that has done it recently, using today's materials would tell you the correct part # modern PPG or 3M products to use, available at Auto Paint Stores during the week, when they are open, do not rely on Auto Parts Store temporary fixes.

StudeRich
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studehunter
Cruiser Member

USA
227 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  3:15:31 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
so i need to use a sealant on the glass and then apply the rubber?

Domenic Manera
1954 Regal Starlight Coupe
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BobGlasscock
Commander Member

USA
3314 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  3:16:11 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
New SDC Commandment--


Do as Rich says, not as I do.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

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sals54
Commander Member

USA
1797 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  3:16:42 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Go to a reputable auto glass shop where they are familiar with the old windshields. I got a tube of sealant from my local glass shop and it worked perfectly.

sals54
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stehlik
Starlight Member

USA
62 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  3:50:33 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit stehlik's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I did my front glass in the 60 wagon 2 years ago and I have had no leaks. I live in Oregon and we get lots of rain. I drive the car in the rain and it sits outside some times.
I went to Lowe's and bought a tub of sealant that said for automotive glass. It's black and sticky and gets all over everything if you are not careful, but it works great. I used it in both channels. Do the glass channel first let sit(you may want to tie it together with string to hold it in place till you are ready to install) while you prep the car window lip. Apply sealant to car make sure to add a little extra around the corners. Lay the glass on the hood and apply some sealant to the rubber. no too much. Then install a string or thin rope in the car channel, start at the top and go both ways and meet at the bottom. Set the window on the bottom channel start to pull the string(use a spray bottle with a little soapy water to help the string move if needed)you will need someone out side to help hold and push the window. Work the string a little from one side then the other while the helper keeps pressure on the window. Keep this up till the window is in. Re-check the rubber seal for spots not quite right and use a bent screw driver(or the proper tool if you have one)to correct the rubber seal. Clean up with something like lacquer thinner. Be careful not to get it on the headliner. Good Luck....bob

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Jackson
Cruiser Member

108 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  6:18:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used CRL 1716 sealant to seal the glass to the rubber and 3M 8509 sealant to seal the rubber to the body. A considerable amount of WD40 made the job easier (I also had professional help).


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Edited by - Jackson on 05/02/2010 6:22:48 PM
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Milaca
Commander Member

USA
2581 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  7:40:10 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Black urethane sealant may be a good choice. It's available at auto supply stores which carry autobody chemicals/supplies.


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WCP
Regal Member

Canada
402 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2010 :  9:06:46 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't use urethane or any other sealant that can't be cleaned up with mineral spirits. You will get lots of sealant on the paint surface around the window and the rubber seal. I've used a Dominion Sureseal product, available from auto glass shops - comes in a caulking tube. Apply a thick bead to the window fence before placing the window with rubber seal/trim in position to pull it in with the cord, and yes, WD40 applied liberally to the glass to rubber channel as well as the stainless trim channel will assist in slapping the window into its final position. The glass to rubber channel is usually sealed after the window and trim are seated in their final position. This requires a needle glue gun to slip between the glass and rubber seal on the outside to flood the interface with sealant.
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woodysrods
Golden Hawk Member

Canada
563 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2010 :  10:51:03 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Rub the rope with a bar of soap to make it slide more freely. Don't use urethane unless you have a spare window to store until you need it. As you will have to break the old one to get it out.
Good Roads
Brian

Brian Woods
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1946 M Series (Shop Truck)
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