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studehunter
Cruiser Member
USA
227 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 2:39:51 PM
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I am ready to install my front and rear windows and it just dawned on
me.....Do I need any type of windshield adhesive along with the rubber?
Or do I install the window the rubber seal and the stainless with no
other sealent...THANKS A BUNCH
Domenic Manera 1954 Regal Starlight Coupe |
Edited by - showbizkid on 05/02/2010 7:47:39 PM |
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StudeRich
Commander Member
USA
7979 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 2:58:18 PM
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Do not even think about installing them dry! The
Shop manual shows how to use small rope to install the Glass, Gasket
and Mouldings as an assembly with a helper pounding the glass in, while
you pull the rope out starting at top center from the inside.
They mention using a clay (dum-dum) on the body opening. Today we have sealers like beutal(sp?) for the glass to rubber sealant.
They
are many posts here from people who have done it themselves instead of
allowing the pro's at the glass shop to do it, some worked, some lost
the glass, some leaked.
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studehunter
Cruiser Member
USA
227 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 3:04:46 PM
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THaT IS MY QUESTION DO I NEED SOME TYPE OF SEALER, I AM AWARE OF THE
ROPE TO INSTALL IT. i AM READY BUT I DO NOT HAVE A SEALER IS IT
REQUIRED TO HAVE A SEALER OR IS THE RUBBER ALL THAT IS REQUIRED.
THANKS
Domenic Manera 1954 Regal Starlight Coupe |
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BobGlasscock
Commander Member
USA
3314 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 3:11:15 PM
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quote: Originally posted by StudeRich
Do not even think about installing them dry!
They
are many posts here from people who have done it themselves instead of
allowing the pro's at the glass shop to do it, some worked, some lost
the glass, some leaked.
StudeRich
'50 Champion, 1 family owner
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31Streetrod
Starlight Member
76 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 3:12:17 PM
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You won't need any sealant If you are never going to drive it in the
rain or wash it with a hose, but otherwise I would highly recommend
using sealant.
Lost in the 50's |
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StudeRich
Commander Member
USA
7979 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 3:14:49 PM
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quote: Originally posted by studehunter
THaT
IS MY QUESTION DO I NEED SOME TYPE OF SEALER, I AM AWARE OF THE ROPE TO
INSTALL IT. i AM READY BUT I DO NOT HAVE A SEALER IS IT REQUIRED TO
HAVE A SEALER OR IS THE RUBBER ALL THAT IS REQUIRED.
I thought this was pretty clear: "They
mention using a clay (dum-dum) on the body opening. Today we have
sealers like beutal(sp?) for the glass to rubber sealant."
Yes, BOTH inside the gasket and outside or/body opening require two different types of sealant!
I
was hoping that someone that has done it recently, using today's
materials would tell you the correct part # modern PPG or 3M products
to use, available at Auto Paint Stores during the week, when they are
open, do not rely on Auto Parts Store temporary fixes.
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studehunter
Cruiser Member
USA
227 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 3:15:31 PM
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so i need to use a sealant on the glass and then apply the rubber?
Domenic Manera 1954 Regal Starlight Coupe |
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BobGlasscock
Commander Member
USA
3314 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 3:16:11 PM
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New SDC Commandment--
Do as Rich says, not as I do.
'50 Champion, 1 family owner
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sals54
Commander Member
USA
1797 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 3:16:42 PM
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Go to a reputable auto glass shop where they are familiar with the old
windshields. I got a tube of sealant from my local glass shop and it
worked perfectly.
sals54
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stehlik
Starlight Member
USA
62 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 3:50:33 PM
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I did my front glass in the 60 wagon 2 years ago and I have had no
leaks. I live in Oregon and we get lots of rain. I drive the car in the
rain and it sits outside some times. I went to Lowe's and bought a
tub of sealant that said for automotive glass. It's black and sticky
and gets all over everything if you are not careful, but it works
great. I used it in both channels. Do the glass channel first let
sit(you may want to tie it together with string to hold it in place
till you are ready to install) while you prep the car window lip. Apply
sealant to car make sure to add a little extra around the corners. Lay
the glass on the hood and apply some sealant to the rubber. no too
much. Then install a string or thin rope in the car channel, start at
the top and go both ways and meet at the bottom. Set the window on the
bottom channel start to pull the string(use a spray bottle with a
little soapy water to help the string move if needed)you will need
someone out side to help hold and push the window. Work the string a
little from one side then the other while the helper keeps pressure on
the window. Keep this up till the window is in. Re-check the rubber
seal for spots not quite right and use a bent screw driver(or the
proper tool if you have one)to correct the rubber seal. Clean up with
something like lacquer thinner. Be careful not to get it on the
headliner. Good Luck....bob
55pres- Cascade Chapter Oregon https://users.mcsi.net/cascadestudebaker
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Jackson
Cruiser Member
108 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 6:18:25 PM
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I used CRL 1716 sealant to seal the glass to the rubber and 3M 8509
sealant to seal the rubber to the body. A considerable amount of WD40
made the job easier (I also had professional help).
34 STUDEBAKER STREET ROD 55 SPEEDSTER (in work) 63 R2 LARK (in work) 85 AVANTI (9K miles)
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Edited by - Jackson on 05/02/2010 6:22:48 PM |
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Milaca
Commander Member
USA
2581 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 7:40:10 PM
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Black urethane sealant may be a good choice. It's available at auto supply stores which carry autobody chemicals/supplies.
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WCP
Regal Member
Canada
402 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2010 : 9:06:46 PM
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I wouldn't use urethane or any other sealant that can't be cleaned up
with mineral spirits. You will get lots of sealant on the paint surface
around the window and the rubber seal. I've used a Dominion Sureseal
product, available from auto glass shops - comes in a caulking tube.
Apply a thick bead to the window fence before placing the window with
rubber seal/trim in position to pull it in with the cord, and yes, WD40
applied liberally to the glass to rubber channel as well as the
stainless trim channel will assist in slapping the window into its
final position. The glass to rubber channel is usually sealed after the
window and trim are seated in their final position. This requires a
needle glue gun to slip between the glass and rubber seal on the
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woodysrods
Golden Hawk Member
Canada
563 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 10:51:03 PM
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Rub the rope with a bar of soap to make it slide more freely. Don't use
urethane unless you have a spare window to store until you need it. As
you will have to break the old one to get it out. Good Roads Brian
Brian Woods woodysrods@shaw.ca 1946 M Series (Shop Truck)
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